In pursuit of the Lost Ten Tribes 
 and the 
 Science of Ancestral Identity 
LTT.jpgHere is the Biblical and historical evidence placing the tribal boundaries today:

In Genesis 49, we have a prophecy concerning the state of each of the tribes in the "Latter days" and also in Deuteronomy 33, a chapter dealing with the blessings. With these two main chapters as guides, we can rightly INTERPRET obscure historical evidence that no history book yet clarifies or explores.

Judah constituted mainly the House of Judah, to be scattered among all nations, becoming a taunt and a byword. We are not to expect them as a separate nation among Israel today, defying all who would come against them. A small part of Judah was carried captive with Israel (II Kings 18:13), as found in the records of the Assyrian kings. Thus, among Israel we should find a small remnant of Judah. We locate the name as Jutes, and living in Jutland, Denmark. Some migrated to England.

Levi, the priestly tribe, was to be scattered in Israel (Gen. 49:5-7). God never gave them land to inherit as other tribes. Therefore, we should not expect them to be given territory today. Nothing is said in Deut. 33 about inheriting land. Among the Jews today we find many bearing the names: Levi, Levy, Levine. Others bear the name "Cohen" and its variations. The Hebrew word "Kohen" means priest and is so translated 725 times in the King James version. Here then, we have the great bulk of Levi -- scattered among Judah because they left their priestly junctions in Israel almost totally (I Kings 12:31).

Simeon received no blessing from Moses. In fact, he does not even mention the tribe! Jacob said God would scatter them throughout Israel. How? In the map below of Palestine for the time of the division of the land, notice that Simeon did have an inheritance in an enclave inside Judah. When Israel separated Judah, Judah occupied the territory of Simeon, Simeon went with Israel.
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The only explanation is that Simeon migrated into Israel generally, but no new territory was assigned to Simeon. This tribe became scattered. It is possible that the small tribes in Western Europe, variously called the Senones or Semaones or Sennones, represent the fragments of the tribe of Simeon.

Reuben, unstable as water and having the excellency of greatness, we have recognized as France. Southern France, settled by the descendants of Javan (the Greeks), is Gentile. The only democratic country, that is unstable, yet sets the styles for the world, has the form of real excellency, and has the same sex weakness as Reuben, is France. When rightly translated, Moses says: "Let Reuben live, and not die in that his men become few." (Deut. 33:6). Of all the western nations, France has the lowest birthrate, although at one time France was the most populous country in all Europe, outnumbering England nearly 6 to 1. No other country in all the world fits all these qualifications. And is it not significant that the very country at war with England around 1800 should be France (Reuben), who would lose the birthright in the Napoleonic war? (Napoleon was Italian.)

The Ancient Patriarchs are:


The true Bible Story begins in the Book of John 1:1 KJV 1611 AV.

God planned to use one chosen man, Abram and his family, both direct and/or extended family,  in order to save the world from the second death brought on by mankind's transgression of the 10 Commandments.

All Abram's descendants whether direct or indirect,  would be baptised and grafted into one Godly spiritual family. This would occur through 2 Resurrections. (A Third Resurrection is to eternal death.)

Just as Yahweh would sacrifice his only son, Jesus Christ, for the sins of all mankind; likewise Yahweh designed a similar test for Abram to determine whether he would also sacrifice his own son. 
Abram passed the test. (Genesis 22:12)

As a reward God blessed Abraham's descendents with astronomical, earth shattering, never surpassed reward.
(Genesis 16-18).

Abram's reward would be an astounding, mind-blowing blessing.
It would be divided into two great components:
The Lion's share of the blessings went to Abraham's only son Isaac (Genesis 22:2)

1. Spiritual blessing of immortality.
2. Physical blessings of immense wealth and a worldwide empire.

That blessing was passed on to Abraham's son Isaac. (Genesis 17:18-21. "But My covenant I will establish with Isaac...).

And the Abrahamic Blessing was then passed to Isaac's son Jacob. (Genesis 32:24-27;)

And it was at this monumental point that affected the entire world because God changed Jacob's name to ISRAEL.

Genesis 32:27-28 - "So He (The Lord aka Logos) said to him (Jacob), "What is your name?" He said, "Jacob." And He said, "Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but ISRAEL; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed."

Genesis 32:30 - "So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."

Jacob married the sister's Leah and Rachel. Together the two sisters gave birth to eight sons.

Jacob aka Israel's Children with his wife Leah were in their birth order.
1 - Reuben. Name means "see a son." Genesis 29:32.
2 - Simeon. Name means "God has heard." Genesis 29:33.
3 - Levi. Name means "joining." Genesis 29:34.
4 - Judah. Name means "to praise." Genesis 29:35.
5 - Issachar. Name means "reward, recompense." Gen.30:17-18.
6 - Zebulun. Name means "gifts, honor." Genesis 30:19-20.

Jacob aka Israel's with Rachel's Children in their birth order:
1 - Joseph. Name means "God shall add." Genesis 30:23-24.
2 - Benjamin. Name means "son of my right hand." Gen. 35:16-18

Israel aka Jacob also had four children from the handmaidens of Leah and Rachel.

Israel's children with Rachel's handmaiden Bilhah.
1 - Dan. Name means "judged." Genesis 30:5-6.
2 - Naphtali. Name means "my struggle." Genesis 30:7-8.

Israel's children with Leah's handmaiden Zilpah.
1 - Gad. Name means "troop, company." Genesis 30:10-11.
2 - Asher. Name means "happy." Genesis 30:12-13.

(For more understanding read the booklet:

The United States and Britain In Prophecy by John H. Ogwyn."

Also read the book,

Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright

God is growing a family, named Elohim, presently comprised of Yahweh aka God the Father and Adonai, God the Son aka Jesus Christ.

1. Spiritual Reward Blessing:

Immortality would be opened to those who agree to obey God's Commandments and answered their calling.
God promised all Mankind through Jesus Christ,  the Ultimate Gift of Eternal life.  That means "individual immortality" given to every Man/Woman who are Judged Worthy to Escape the Second Death.

The First Resurrection was a Resurrection from the Dead and Glorification all instantaneously. Born into a Spirit Body, within the same dimension as of the Creator for a guaranteed face to face meeting.

Now Abram passed the test and he did please God so much so that God made him and his descendants a special people. Set apart from the rest of humanity. And as a result God the Creator, changed Abram's name to Abraham.

So the name Israel was given to Abraham and to whomever Abraham passed that name down.
We will find in the pages of the Holy Scriptures that Abraham at God’s direction did not pass the name Israel to the tribe of Judah but to the children of Joseph; who was the brother of Judah.

Note: At the time that Abraham’s name was changed to Israel, Judah had not yet been born. 

Then God gave to Abram and only Abraham and his descendants a Promise in two parts. A "Spiritual gift" aka The Sceptre Promise of Grace 

And also while alive in the flesh, God promised Abram a material blessing of immense wealth. It was a bonanza for Abram's Descendants (and only Abram's descendants including Jews, Christians, 'Gentile's' and Arabs-Turks). Characterized and consisting mostly of the English speaking world and the Arab world.

The condition (Quid Pro Quo) for Abram in return for this spiritual and material bonanza of unimaginable power and control is Abram's obedience to God’s Laws and Commandments. It is been very anciently known as The Birthright Blessing from God to Mankind via the man Abram.

The two parts consisted of:

A spiritual blessing of immortality (glorification) and a material blessing of immense wealth. A dual blessing. But the blessing was conditional upon Abram and his descendants obedience to God’s Laws, Testimonies, Statutes, and Commandments. 

Abraham passed the blessing on to his son Isaac and Isaac passed it on to his son Jacob. With Jacob, the blessing divided into two parts. One of his twelve sons named Judah received the spiritual part of God’s ‘Bonanza’ blessing also known as the Sceptre. And his son Joseph received the material part of God’s Promise to Abraham.  

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were warned by God that if they did not abide by a Biblical Way of Life, that the material and spiritual blessings would be deferred and their descendants would be scattered to the “ends of the earth.” Only to be regathered at the end-times after 6,000 years.


They were warned clearly many times that at some point in the future regardless of how far they had strayed from that Biblical Way, they would still inherit exponentially monumental physical blessings and be gathered back to their ancient homelands; to their ancient hub, which was the Middle East and specifically Abrahams Land Grant. And when They regained their memory that all the Families of the Earth would be Blessed through and only through them.

Terms for Review

A - Heber is the genetic father (G.F.) of Abraham and all Abraham’s Children. Isaac is a genetic son of Abraham and Heber. Isaac’s brother Ishmael is the Genetic Father of the Arabs. The Arabs are the children of Abraham but Not the Children of Isaac. The Spiritual & Material Birthright Blessings were passed on to Isaac’s Children,some of them became known as Saxons from Isaac’s sons.

B - Genesis 21:12 “And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman [HAGAR]; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.”

C -
Isaac’s sons became the Saxons, Celts, Cimmerians, Goths over time and settled in North-Western Europe and in the British Isles and Ireland.

D -
Because of Joseph’s promotion to Prime Minister of Egypt beside Pharaoh, the Children of Joseph settled together as a Union of the brothers in Egypt and over time migrated to The Isles aka The British Isles as well as to France, and other North-Western nations of Europe. “Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from afar; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.” The material side of the Promises of God were conferred on primarily Britain and America aka Ephraim and Manasseh.

E - All three major religions today namely Muslim, Christianity and Judaism all claim they are the Children of Abraham. The misconception arises on account of the fact that all Judahites are Sons of Heber aka Hebrews But Not ALL Hebrews are of the genetic family of JUDAH, one of the twelve sons of JACOB.

F -  So since France and England and America are really all sons of Heber, why then do they not understand their real identity? Why do they not identify as Hebrews?

Are they three of the Lost Ten Tribes?

Small nations by today’s standards such as Egypt, Libya, Ethiopia, Lebanon are found named in the Holy Bible. One would naturally expect to find the Empire-sized nations such as Britain and America. Where then are the biggest nations mentioned and if not then why? It is natural that Britain and America should be mentioned. Where are they mentioned? The answer is they are mentioned but only by their ancient homeland names.

 Let us start you on your journey to Understanding the History of Tribal Royal families which descended from our ancient patriarchal Chieftains. The journey begins with understanding the true Meaning of Terms.

   What was God's Birthright Material Promise to Abraham

1. Abraham was to be a great and mighty nation. Genesis 18:18

2 . Abraham's name ws to be great. Genesis 12:2.

3. Jacob-Israel was to be exceedingly fruitful. Genesis 28:14, 49:22, Numbers 23:10, Isaiah 10:22, Hosea 1:10, Zechariah 10:8.

4. Jacob-Israel was to spread abroad to the West, East, North, and South. Genesis 28:14, Isaiah 43:5-6.

5. Israel was to have a Davidic king. Jeremiah 33:17, 21, 26; Ezekiel 37:24; II Samuel 7:13, 19.

6. Israel was to be the first of the nations. Deuteronomy 14:2; 26:19.

7. Israel was to continue as a nation forever. II Samuel 7:16,24,29, Jeremiah 31:35-37, I Chronicles 17:22-27.

8. Israel was to dwell alone. Numbers 23:9, Deuteronomy 33:28.


Let’s compare the Blessing one by one and ask whether it had been fulfilled on the Tribe of Judah or was it conferred on some other Tribe? Could it be Tribe of Joseph and his Sons?

  1. Did the Tribe of Judah ever fulfill to be a great and mighty nation? (Genesis 18:17-18)
  2. to be numerous as the stars of heaven? (Genesis 22:16-18)
  3. to spread abroad over the whole earth and bless all of humanity? (Genesis 28:14-15)
  4. to be a nation and company of nations? (Genesis 35:10-12)
  5. to number ultimately thousands of millions (literally “thousands of ten thousands”) and possess the gates of their enemies? (Genesis 24:60)
  6. to be the riches nations on earth? (Genesis 49:22-26) In the last days! (Deuteronomy 33:13-17)
  7. to be chief of the nations? (Deuteronomy 7:6) “above all people who are upon the face of the earth.“
  8. to be a great naval power? (Numbers 24:7; Psalm 89:25)
  9. to have a lion, unicorn (Numbers 24:8-9; Deuteronomy 33:17) and a Bald Eagle (Micah 1:16) as national symbols?
  10. to be planted in another land outside Palestine? II (Samuel 7:10)
  11. to have another name? (Isaiah 65:15) – called after Isaac? (Genesis 21:12; Romans 9:7; Amos 7:16)
  12. to live in the isles and coasts? (Isaiah 41:1-10; 49:1-9)
  13. to rule a vast Gentile Empire of many nations? (Deuteronomy 15:16)
  14. to be God’s battle-axe? Have the greatest military power? (Jeremiah 51:19-21)

Have these and many other prophecies been fulfilled by the Tribe of Judah?

Obviously No! – the birthright went to Joseph not Judah (1 Chronicles 5: 1-2). Jacob’s name Israel was passed to the House of Joseph namely his children, the tribes of Ephraim (Britain) and Manasseh (United States of America).

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nelsonNelson Thall is recognized as one of the world’s leading authorities on the science of communication/media and process analysis. His expertise has afforded him the opportunity to define law terms for the Federal Court of Canada and develop a television series with Dr. Timothy Leary. Bill Gates and Peter Lloyd invited Thall to contribute an essay to the book Webweaving in 1998. While a Graduate Student studying at the University of Toronto with Professor Marshall McLuhan, Thall became a McLuhan Protege and served as the President of the Marshall McLuhan Centre On Global Communications: A Think-Tank Commissioned by the McLuhan family, 1990-1995. He has served on the Boards of Directors of Torstar Corporation, Stan Lee Media Inc., Hollywood California; Peace Arch Films & Entertainment of Toronto, Vancouver  as well as on the Boards of other publicly traded companies. He is a lecturer/author and has been a consultant to companies in the United States, Russia, Canada and Britain. His Work on finding the Lost 10 Tribes is based on an understanding that the 12 Tribes of Jacob are alive but not so well because they under a discipling of greatest measure by the Lord aka Yahweh and Adonai the Saviour of all Mankind from Eternal Perishment.


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